Scope Mounted Light Kit !

[Fieldsports 155]

Well I have spent most if not all of tonight looking through Ebay and other sites for Cree flashlights that will fit on a scope ( 30mm )I know some cree lights on the bay is not real and they are sold by eastern friends that like to fill us brits full of sh1t.

I have done a little reading and a few phone calls to see what lumen value I need in a cree light and the average comes back between 500 lumen and 1000 lumen ( Please correct me if I am wrong )

I wanted a full kit, to fit the rifle from pressure switch to chargers and batteries including all the mounts I will need.

I see some of these kits are priced from about £25 from the UK ( I do not deal with china sorry, too many bad sellers )

and the prices go upto £190.....

So has anyone got a kit they can recommend to me or has anyone got any recommendations on what to get at a realistic price.

I need something with an adjustable beam "narrow to wide"

Something I can look in the field with to spot upto 400m and be the right light to shoot with at 60m

And lightness is a must with the fact "smaller the better" in mind.

Filters are a bonus and I would like them but if not so be it.

Any advice please as I am sick to death with looking now.

 

I do not want to spend too much as in under £60 if at all possible.

 

Thanks for any advice.

Edited January 23, 2013 by Fieldsports

[moxy 617]

Most of the Cree stuff is shite. You won't get anywhere the lumen output that is claimed. You can at least half those values.

 

Get something like an led lenser and build up the kit.

 

Most Cree lights are powerful but very floody at distance and not a tight beam. Again you will struggle with filters. A dedicated coloured led is more the like.

The pressure switches are crap too and you will have countless fun if the torch has a multi mode. Lol.

 

As to variant between 60 and 400 you will be lucky unless you have a wired system or pay a fortune for a torch.

 

Even Debens stuff in my opinion isn't much kop in regards to their claims. However as a wired setup the pro max is a good one.

 

Another alternative could be the laser genetics stuff. It will give you the range. Check it out.

[moxy 617]

To add depending on what you get. 30 mm mounts and adapters are common as muck

[Fieldsports 155]

Most of the Cree stuff is shite. You won't get anywhere the lumen output that is claimed. You can at least half those values.

 

Get something like an led lenser and build up the kit.

 

Most Cree lights are powerful but very floody at distance and not a tight beam. Again you will struggle with filters. A dedicated coloured led is more the like.

The pressure switches are crap too and you will have countless fun if the torch has a multi mode. Lol.

 

As to variant between 60 and 400 you will be lucky unless you have a wired system or pay a fortune for a torch.

 

Even Debens stuff in my opinion isn't much kop in regards to their claims. However as a wired setup the pro max is a good one.

 

Another alternative could be the laser genetics stuff. It will give you the range. Check it out.

 

Thanks very much for that advice mate i appreciate it.

So do not do the cree then ?

I have a cree head light its good but funny you say at distance it stops looking like a light and it is a haze of something that looks like light....LOL

Now that sounds sh1t, but looking on ebay has knackered me...

I need to gan to bed and begin again the morra.

Keep the suggestions coming please as it thins my search down....and apart from a lightforce roof light where do I go...

 

Steve

Edited January 23, 2013 by Fieldsports

[moxy 617]

You get what you pay for.

 

Start again tommorow.

 

You sleep on it. Light light!!

[bwfc 164]

This is what i bought.....

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6867771 Switch £4.99 +49p p&p

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=181064833461 Holder £4.99 +49p p&p

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1497.l2649 Torch + batteries and charger £14.99 +free p&p

Total cost just under £26.00.

The torch is 1600 lumens with variable flood or spot and 2 stages inbetween.

The torch holder for a 1" scope and fits the torch perfectly

The sensor is the correct one for the torch.

 

I have all these items,they are uk based and i use and recommend them!.There job done for you buddy

Edited January 24, 2013 by bwfc

[Fieldsports 155]

This is what i bought.....

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6867771 Switch £4.99 +49p p&p

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=181064833461 Holder £4.99 +49p p&p

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1497.l2649 Torch + batteries and charger £14.99 +free p&p

Total cost just under £26.00.

The torch is 1600 lumens with variable flood or spot

The torch holder fir a 1" scope and the torch perfectly

The sensor is the correct one for the torch.

 

I have all these items,they are uk based and i use and recommend them!.There job done for you buddy

 

I can not open the first link mate what is it so I can find it on there .

I have a 30mm scope tube will all these fit

Please give me seller for 1st link or another one please

IS their a car charger for it as well by any chance

 

Steve

 

 

PS: Do they work well and have you tried all these in the field

Edited January 24, 2013 by Fieldsports

[moxy 617]

bwfc. How does the 1600 lumen fair with a filter on???

 

I have a feeling it drops down from 60 m to around 25-30 m max.

[Guest scramble]

try matching a cree torch with the relevant size aspheric lens and you'll have more than enough distance and a really tight beam.

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1439.l2649

http://dx.com/p/glas...ights-28mm-5297

The aspheric will need slightly sanding down on the edges but once its done you'll change your mind about the performance, you can buy drop in's for white or red so no need for a filter. the torch in the link has a red LED and will hold a nice tight beam well out past airgun ranges.

SCRAMBLE

 

Edited to add

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-4mm-30mm-Mount-Metal-25-4mm-1-0-Double-Hole-Bore-Mount-Laser-Sight-Scope-/360570985712?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item53f3b49cf0

 

adjustable height and left,right

Edited January 24, 2013 by scramble

[bwfc 164]

Try this....

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181066867771

 

Yes i got the 3 items mid november and theyre superb and fine with a filter.The torch is powerful enough at 100 metres,but all my quarry is between 20-50 metres so its superb.Im as tight as a jews waistcoat and i think its unbelievable value.

I wish someone would do all the hard work for me lol.

[Fieldsports 155]

Try this....

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=181066867771

 

Yes i got the 3 items mid november and theyre superb and fine with a filter.The torch is powerful enough at 100 metres,but all my quarry is between 20-50 metres so its superb.Im as tight as a jews waistcoat and i think its unbelievable value.

I wish someone would do all the hard work for me lol.

 

Thanks mate ! I appreciate the reply.

I will take a good look at it all now mate.

With a filter on does it drop like what Moxy suggests ?

Thanks mate

 

Steve

[moxy 617]

Steve. If you are looking for something for rabbits and rats and are on a budget then take scrambles advice. Seriously no disrespect bwfc.

 

I have most of the torches posted in the links above and many more. I'm not a lumen freak but have spent years looking for a good lightweight, wire free scope mounted set up. To be honest I have not come across a suitable dedicated " the one"

 

You would be surprised at how much output an led torch loses when filtered. That's why an led coloured bulb is available.

 

800, 1000 , 20,000 lumen is all well but it's an intense light and with no option to dim these little torches your going to startle everything with a blinding light and they will soon get wise to your ways.

 

I personally do not use white light for rabbits. Only as a last resort and a rat isn't going to sit happy for long with an intense 1200 lumen red led beaming on it.

 

TBH the lumen output on all these torches are utter shite. A sales tactic with the wow factor and nothing more.

 

My favourite, trusty and reliable piece of kit is the max pro with a dimmer. Even the new deben led stuff isn't that good, the light is far too white and does not filter right.

 

You are really going to struggle to get something versatile enought for the ranges in your OP unless you spend money.

 

I can put you in touch with an eBay seller who has the the ultra fire kits listed above. Full kits as you requested for around forty quid plus post. Happen a little cheaper but I don't rate them. I believe if getting out with the gun and lamp is something your going to do long term then spend your money wisely and invest in something that will last you and do the job proper.

[bwfc 164]

Steve, it does drop as Moxy says,but it does the job for me in the field.As for Ratting as suggested you will need something less powerful.for close in work. Youve had a few alternatives now and all good advice.You did say you were on a budget,so i thought something half decent for 26 quid wasnt a bad shout

Edited January 24, 2013 by bwfc

[moxy 617]

Steve, it does drop as Moxy says,but it does the job for me in the field.As for Ratting as suggested you will need something less powerful.for close in work. Youve had a few alternatives now and all good advice.You did say you were on a budget,so i thought something half decent for 26 quid wasnt a bad shout

 

Not a bad shout at all mate.

[Guest scramble]

Steve. If you are looking for something for rabbits and rats and are on a budget then take scrambles advice. Seriously no disrespect bwfc.

 

I have most of the torches posted in the links above and many more. I'm not a lumen freak but have spent years looking for a good lightweight, wire free scope mounted set up. To be honest I have not come across a suitable dedicated " the one"

 

You would be surprised at how much output an led torch loses when filtered. That's why an led coloured bulb is available.

 

800, 1000 , 20,000 lumen is all well but it's an intense light and with no option to dim these little torches your going to startle everything with a blinding light and they will soon get wise to your ways.

 

I personally do not use white light for rabbits. Only as a last resort and a rat isn't going to sit happy for long with an intense 1200 lumen red led beaming on it.

 

TBH the lumen output on all these torches are utter shite. A sales tactic with the wow factor and nothing more.

 

My favourite, trusty and reliable piece of kit is the max pro with a dimmer. Even the new deben led stuff isn't that good, the light is far too white and does not filter right.

 

You are really going to struggle to get something versatile enought for the ranges in your OP unless you spend money.

 

I can put you in touch with an eBay seller who has the the ultra fire kits listed above. Full kits as you requested for around forty quid plus post. Happen a little cheaper but I don't rate them. I believe if getting out with the gun and lamp is something your going to do long term then spend your money wisely and invest in something that will last you and do the job proper.

 

perfect it wont be long until those little cree torches are dim-able, it'll have to be a DIY job but will make a perfect little lamp to sit over a scope.

SCRAMBLE